Rozhovory o zvuku 07-Michal Cáb

• Interviews on Sound00:00:07.981
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• Michal Cáb00:00:09.904
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• I will tell it like a fairy tale.00:00:26.663
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• In fact, it is a fairy tale00:00:29.431
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• about how I started to make what I´m dealing with now00:00:30.902
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• and recently I´ve been feeling a bit bored by it.00:00:32.979
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• About 2003 I made a normal computer music00:00:37.240
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• with normal means available to anybody00:00:43.581
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• who decides to create computer music.00:00:48.737
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• You use a software providing you with certain possibilities.00:00:52.838
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• Normally, there are sequences00:00:57.372
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• where you can enter notes in a certain time.00:00:59.337
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• For a short time you can be satisfied with this environment,00:01:04.474
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• after a while, you can start feeling some limitations.00:01:10.547
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• Sequencer determines that you work with time that is measurable.00:01:17.736
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• However, time needn´t be a measurable unit,00:01:28.525
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• it can be a qualitative unit.00:01:32.652
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• Never mind. There were lot of moments when00:01:40.858
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• I started feeling really limited by the means I had.00:01:44.461
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• I had to reconcile with that feeling or stop making this kind of music00:01:51.718
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• or I could look for another way how to proceed.00:01:58.776
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• For me, the way turned up at that moment00:02:08.940
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• when I decided to create my own instruments.00:02:12.695
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• Suddendly, I can explore sonic space that the applications00:02:15.833
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• were not able to provide at that time,00:02:25.821
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• for instance, a space of microtonal or quarter tonal music.00:02:28.004
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• When I speak about it, I always mention it, it is a bit stupid,00:02:37.408
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• I always say that it is an attempt to return to the experience of proximity00:02:41.651
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• in a relationship to a music instrument.00:02:49.140
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• When we play the instruments, we touch the material,00:02:53.157
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• when you stand behind a synthesizer... you may know it,00:02:56.839
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• when you touch a potentiometer, you may feel fine,00:03:01.702
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• but a man should ask what is behind,00:03:05.087
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• speaking about the potentiometer00:03:14.063
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• there is the filter that is actually very interesting00:03:15.484
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• because a man can observe it from the point of view of cybernetics.00:03:21.318
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• It is a kind of a unit that has inputs and outputs00:03:25.991
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• that counts with a feedback.00:03:28.826
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• When I started to get into software instrument creation,00:03:30.819
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• the first instrument I worked with was a programming language PURE DATA,00:03:36.850
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• on the other hand, there are many of them,00:03:42.526
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• any programming language can serve to this purpose.00:03:45.088
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• In case of PURE DATA, it associates paradigm of programming of the MUNK00:03:51.923
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• modular synthesizers, so it can be easier to somebody who know this type.00:04:00.524
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• At the end, it doesn´t matter, because it is just an instrument,00:04:06.330
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• helping a man to discover questions, or00:04:10.917
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• a man starts to ask many questions thanks to that.00:04:17.394
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• I didn´t know where to go, I didn´t have any expectations.00:04:23.036
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• I remember when I started to prepare something in PURE DATA that I wanted00:04:26.634
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• to build a FM synthesizer that would sound well.00:04:30.707
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• I couldn´t create it.00:04:34.049
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• Suddendly, I started to study sound,00:04:36.882
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• sound spectrum, amplitude modulation synthesis.00:04:46.179
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• For a long time, I wasn´t able to work with it,00:04:53.006
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• so thanks to that I got to use to like a pure sound of sinus, saw or square.00:04:59.466
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• I often make concerts with somebody who makes visuals,00:05:36.742
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• we often share a similar attitude to the course of concerts.00:05:39.993
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• It is a kind of improvization. I like to work with Petr Gonda.00:05:47.709
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• I like an intuitive jam session.00:05:56.431
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• There are some compositions where I also apply a visual element,00:06:02.867
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• but I think that each element has its own place,00:06:09.362
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• we don´t force them to correspond to each other.00:06:11.893
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• If some meaning should be communicated,00:06:15.892
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• it can be communicated either via the image or the sound.00:06:20.621
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• I think I work more with an auditive element than with a visual.00:06:26.140
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• It is a kind of a non-verbal communication00:06:32.083
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• where you try to reach some new or unusual quality.00:06:34.182
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• This can be reached in a jam session, but it is not a condition,00:06:40.182
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• as well as in an interview.00:06:45.410
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• We don´t practise so often, we met three times before the concert,00:06:47.810
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• during the concert we try to remember those functioning moments00:06:55.620
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• and we try to repeat them,00:07:03.759
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• which is often not successful.00:07:05.744
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• During our rehearsals we also try get rid of our stereotypes,00:07:08.821
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• and we intend to program a new piece of the code.00:07:21.379
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• When I could express critically on the production,00:07:31.402
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• where the meaning of the production is.00:07:36.336
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• I would be irritated if the production is simply about this.00:07:40.040
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• Recently, I have thought about the choice of the instrument,00:07:45.714
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• and I realized that the choice of the instrument is the gesture.00:07:51.116
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• Kim Cascone said that in postdigital aesthetics00:07:54.118
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• the instrument is the message not the medium.00:07:59.006
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• Theoretically, it would be sufficient to display the instrument,00:08:01.601
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• so anybody can start to play it.00:08:04.291
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• In the anthropological sense,00:08:08.675
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• it can mean a naive return to the proximity in the relation to the instrument.00:08:10.931
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• Or it can mean a kind of policy, however, this is not my way of thinking.00:08:26.036
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• It could mean that we wouldn´t use instruments and technologies you foist on us00:08:32.927
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• because we are autonomous creatures who are able to create the instruments,00:08:37.434
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• it is not about instruments for music creation,00:08:44.266
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• however, for organizational and economic processes.00:08:47.812
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• I think that a man is a creature that cannot define himself.00:08:52.721
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• Although, I tried to make it several times.00:08:55.963
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• I think, in my archive, there are more works on sound than on image.00:08:59.402
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• Algorhytmical compositions give me space00:09:09.452
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• for a greater interpretation freedom or to find more meanings.00:09:14.208
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• I can´t read the image so freely.00:09:25.413
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• Usually, I see some shapes and meanings behind the image.00:09:29.052

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