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- Ostrava City Gallery00:00:16.037
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- TENTACLES FROM DEEP00:00:26.208
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- Winter Ostrava Antonio Vivaldi / WINTER00:00:35.310
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- After twenty years of various conflicts and postponements00:00:47.504
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- Ostrava got finally its own City Gallery with an exclusive focus00:00:51.864
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- on presentation of contemporary art.00:00:56.066
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- For some time now there have been many signs suggesting00:00:59.742
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- there has been established an outstanding institution00:01:03.498
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- with a marked ambition to surpass the borders of not just the region00:01:07.399
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- but also the whole of Czech Republic. The process of its inception deserves00:01:10.483
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- though to be analyzed since it mirrors almost all the imaginable abuses00:01:14.195
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- that can possibly appear along a birth of such institution.00:01:17.969
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- Therefore, let's go back to the very beginning to recap a few views00:01:21.298
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- that can shine a light on the situation back then.00:01:25.047
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- The idea of city gallery and its support goes back to the nineties.00:01:32.058
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- Back then it had been almost approved but the arrangement00:01:35.546
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- to create a city gallery was cancelled by the city council00:01:38.506
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- in a last minute decision.00:01:41.595
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- Ilona Rozehnalová - owner of Fiducia club and gallery, founding member of Kunsthalle Ostrava NGO00:01:44.625
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- And when we had begun to discuss it more with new city council00:01:49.102
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- that the city gallery should be founded, we got it introduced00:01:52.501
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- into the strategical plan of Ostrava city culture.00:01:55.685
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- We were the members of group who created the conception of city culture,00:01:59.653
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- so we have put there also the need to found a city gallery.00:02:03.996
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- Then the city told us it doesn't have a partner with whom it could be discussed.00:02:08.959
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- So we have founded an NGO Kunsthalle, and I am not sure now00:02:12.753
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- which year was that, I guess 2011. And under the heading of Kunsthalle00:02:16.918
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- we have started to promote the founding of city gallery.00:02:21.102
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- Jan Světlík - CEO of Vítkovice Machinery Group, PLC (later stepped down),00:02:24.814
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- member of Triple Hall corporate association, member of Vítkovice Mining Region corp. ass.00:02:27.778
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- It was de facto me who came up with the idea of city gallery and00:02:31.558
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- I didn't participate at nothing after that. I had convinced the city that00:02:35.071
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- the city gallery should be founded. I have convinced then city council00:02:38.551
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- that there has to be at first established an institution and after that00:02:42.588
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- there should be built a building. Not the other way around.00:02:46.432
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- Because for twenty years now they have demanded a building00:02:50.494
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- while expecting to have something to be moved in only afterwards.00:02:54.467
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- Andrea Vojkovská - spokeswoman of mayor of Ostrava00:02:57.621
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- The story of genesis of Ostrava City Gallery is quite long,00:03:00.391
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- starting at least in 1999. The current mayor of city Peter Kajnar00:03:03.307
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- has been for a long time calling upon artists to come up00:03:07.437
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- with some initiative of their own. The proceedings were, once again,00:03:10.403
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- started anew when Simona Piperková became under-secretary.00:03:14.135
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- These discussions resulted in a proposal by Kunsthalle NGO00:03:17.719
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- suggesting that city should establish a semi-budgetary organization,00:03:21.297
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- and also that the gallery could find its place00:03:24.552
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- in the National Cultural Heritage Coal Mine Hlubina.00:03:27.322
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- We have submitted a proposal to the city00:03:30.385
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- how should the gallery function. It went through the city council00:03:32.720
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- and it was agreed that the city gallery should be established.00:03:35.855
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- And since the very beginning we had been insisting00:03:39.071
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- it should be established by city as a semi-budgetary organization00:03:42.362
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- just like it is usual in Czech Republic where most of the kunsthalle type00:03:46.749
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- galleries are established as semi-budgetary organizations.00:03:50.185
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- In December 2012 the city council received two options.00:03:53.292
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- First, a semi-budgetary organization suggested by Kunsthalle NGO,00:03:56.510
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- in which case artists initiated but didn't offer a way how to00:04:00.385
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- secure operation of city gallery since the National Cultural Heritage00:04:04.457
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- Coal Mine Hlubina wasn't at that moment available anymore00:04:08.526
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- for the operation of city gallery. Second, there was Triple Hall (Trojhalí)00:04:12.421
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- who offered not just to secure city gallery operation00:04:15.398
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- but also to provide space, specifically not just Gong (Assembly Hall)00:04:18.371
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- but at that time also the reconstructed Triple Hall00:04:21.791
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- heritage site which is available, as well, at certain times of year00:04:24.929
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- and for certain kinds of Ostrava City Gallery exhibitions.00:04:28.121
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- It was an unpleasant surprise for us to learn they didn't00:04:32.115
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- even inform us there is an alternative in consideration,00:04:35.294
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- even though we were actually the ones whose project00:04:38.691
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- was accepted by the city. It means that there was a project00:04:42.523
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- approved by the city council to establish a city gallery00:04:46.325
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- according to certain assessment and then we learned that00:04:49.511
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- our approved project enters another round of approvals00:04:53.613
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- without anyone bothered to tell us. We haven't submitted it00:04:57.465
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- this second time, of course, we had no idea it was on.00:05:00.701
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- So there was our project of a semi-budgetary organization00:05:03.984
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- located in Compressor Hall (i.e. Coal Mine Hlubina)00:05:07.616
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- and competitor's project of Triple Hall, but without any of us making00:05:10.209
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- that happen because we hadn't demanded00:05:14.445
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- any other project on top of that. Meanwhile, what happened00:05:16.916
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- since the time the city council approved our project for Compressor Hall00:05:20.023
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- was they found no assurance that our project will receive00:05:23.736
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- European funding so they started to look for another space.00:05:26.536
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- So we have started to propose to city some other spaces00:05:29.507
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- suitable for city gallery.00:05:32.843
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- Jiří Surůvka - founding member of Kunsthalle Ostrava NGO00:05:34.961
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- The city kept on making excuses that it doesn't own suitable spaces00:05:37.882
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- for the gallery while selling one building suitable00:05:41.763
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- for the gallery after another, like, for example00:05:44.445
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- the slaughterhouse in city centre. For some years there was00:05:47.586
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- this building behind me available for 20 million CZK;00:05:51.616
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- that is a two-year budget of the currently existing gallery.00:05:55.763
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- Instead, the city exploited our Kunsthalle Ostrava NGO00:05:59.864
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- in order to approve in city council an allotment of funding.00:06:04.020
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- It was a mutual understanding that the financial assets00:06:11.261
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- for the gallery were released. But after that they stopped00:06:15.435
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- talking to us because Vítkovice Company lobbied00:06:19.632
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- for the placement of the gallery in Gong.00:06:23.865
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- And the gallery could have been for example here,00:06:27.999
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- there are some 1.000 square meters which is about twice00:06:32.276
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- the size of Gong and it still wouldn't be as expensive as it is in Gong.00:06:36.361
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- But unfortunately someone has already bought it probably because there is00:06:42.661
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- something going on inside, so it's fucked up as it usually is.00:06:46.361
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- They used to propose to us making it happen in the Palace Hotel00:06:49.368
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- because someone had lobbied again, owner of the hotel presumably00:06:53.515
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- had ties with city council and they couldn't sell it00:06:57.275
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- so they wanted to do it there at all costs.00:07:01.224
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- And then they suggested savings-bank, but it moved to Fukushima00:07:04.106
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- or what's it called... to Nová Karolina.00:07:07.281
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- So it's always only the interests of some people in shadows, some fuckers.00:07:11.411
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- And the city council, just like a weather-cock,00:07:15.939
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- whoever told them... whoever rustled with money00:07:20.090
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- under their noses won. In the end, who rustled the most,00:07:24.156
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- was Světlík, and that's it. They made complete fools of us,00:07:27.634
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- of the whole fine art community and others...00:07:31.944
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- there were architects, too. Everybody was there:00:07:36.127
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- architects, artists, art historians, all those in Ostrava who were00:07:40.360
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- concerned with it for years, that is experts and specialists.00:07:44.143
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- They got ditched.00:07:48.373
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- We have actually never understood why is it that city submits00:07:51.170
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- to city council our project that has been approved00:07:54.693
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- already once and now also the competitor's project of Triple Hall...00:07:57.505
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- we went to city council, of course, to tell them00:08:00.961
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- that it hadn't been us who had submitted it and that we believed00:08:03.547
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- it shouldn't be pushed through in such a manner.00:08:06.858
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- People shouldn't think that Kunsthalle NGO got suddenly angry00:08:09.305
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- with having a competition. Not at all. It's not the point.00:08:12.136
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- We in Kunsthalle NGO had no interest in running a city gallery.00:08:15.907
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- Since the very beginning we have been demanding for the institution00:08:20.106
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- to be established by the usual way, as a semi-budgetary organization,00:08:24.085
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- just like it is everywhere else in Czech Republic.00:08:28.105
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- The model of semi-budgetary organization is proven00:08:31.109
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- and functional and it's a transparent example of00:08:33.436
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- how the institution can operate. Not to mention that city00:08:36.261
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- has announced in advance it is willing to provide 10 mil. CZK00:08:39.450
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- for the operation of gallery. It means they would easily00:08:42.859
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- afford to pay employees and fund the whole operation with top programme.00:08:45.338
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- The sum of ten million CZK ranks above standard00:08:49.484
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- of city gallery budget. For example, in our own project00:08:52.054
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- we were counting on seven million.00:08:55.343
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- The representatives of city council opted for an option00:08:57.559
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- they considered more effective, economically more expedient.00:09:00.065
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- They definitely didn't want to establish new semi-budgetary organization,00:09:04.232
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- so they decided and voted for Ostrava City Gallery00:09:08.140
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- to be built in Ostrava run by the Triple Hall00:09:11.196
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- with exhibition spaces in two places;00:09:15.182
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- not just in Gong but also in Triple Hall that was inaugurated00:09:19.227
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- a few weeks ago.00:09:23.494
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- INTERESTING ARCHITECTURE!!!00:09:26.777
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- "- Hey, have you had an opportunity to go sightseeing in Ostrava00:09:29.390
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- or do you believe one can see here only black piles of coal00:09:33.146
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- and wagons of iron ore and so on?00:09:36.176
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- - Nonsense. Ostrava is today quite different a place.00:09:38.547
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- New, modern city full of unique historic areas, but also parks.00:09:41.308
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- - Agreed. Nice metropolis for citizens of Ostrava,00:09:45.177
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- tourists, students, families, investors and managers.00:09:49.082
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- - Exactly. Simply cool city."00:09:53.142
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- Let's look then at what was so enthusiastically approved00:10:11.883
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- by Ostrava city council. Triple Hall - Karolina,00:10:14.651
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- a project of corporate association, was founded in November 2012,00:10:18.888
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- nearly two months prior to so called second round00:10:22.796
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- of submissions of city gallery proposals to city council00:10:26.839
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- whereof Kunsthalle NGO wasn't informed anymore.00:10:30.676
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- The Triple Hall concept was presented actually as a turnkey project.00:10:37.209
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- It included wide portfolio of activities from big international shows00:10:43.110
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- to commercial exhibitions, to famous Smalt Art Vítkovice workshop,00:10:46.955
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- to presentations of the end-of-the year works of art schools.00:10:50.974
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- The project included even a position of art director00:10:55.065
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- already staffed by Ostravian artist Ivana Štenclová00:10:59.126
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- for long years strongly associated with organization00:11:03.298
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- of Smalt Art Vítkovice workshop. Among partners of the new gallery00:11:07.214
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- were meant to be The Jan and Meda Mládek Foundation,00:11:11.122
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- National Gallery in Prague and Zdeněk Sklenář Gallery00:11:15.326
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- as a representative of expert advisors in fine art.00:11:17.917
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- The strategic plan of OMG (Ostrava City Gallery,00:11:21.335
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- in Czech as Ostravská městská galerie)00:11:23.798
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- and exhibition programme of the first year00:11:26.357
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- was proposed by Ladislav Kesner.00:11:28.636
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- CHILL CITY00:11:31.101
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- Autumn Ostrava Antonio Vivaldi / AUTUMN00:11:38.456
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- Kunsthalle NGO immediately adopted a very critical stance00:11:50.776
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- towards this project and it was endorsed00:11:54.026
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- by many distinguished members of public.00:11:56.754
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- Among those who had sent a written appraisal00:11:59.853
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- to Ostrava city council representatives were00:12:02.694
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- Rostislav Koryčánek, Milena Bartlová, Jiří Ptáček,00:12:05.094
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- Michal Škoda and Otto Urban.00:12:07.819
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- Peter Nedoma, the director of Rudolfinum in Prague,00:12:10.221
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- stood up for Triple Hall. The project was critiqued,00:12:13.782
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- above all, for the pre-occupied position of art director00:12:18.013
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- without selection procedure, unclear and uselessly complicated00:12:22.186
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- structure of organization and, last but not least,00:12:26.336
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- objectionable items in many parts of budget00:12:30.284
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- no matter how preliminary it is for now.00:12:32.770
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- The way the project is described makes an impression00:12:35.754
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- of founding more of a new branch office of a company00:12:39.245
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- than an exposition of new cultural institution.00:12:42.992
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- There is a paradox regarding the fact that in these projects00:12:45.937
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- we don't do business, we don't do things,00:12:49.723
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- we actually stand in for unsuccessful state00:12:51.869
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- and unsuccessful city. And I am glad that the city00:12:54.726
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- and the region give to it their absolute support,00:12:57.487
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- because they realize it's supposed to be rather them00:13:01.454
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- who shall doing these projects. That it was the thing00:13:05.483
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- that had to be provided by a private entity,00:13:09.348
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- who invested his own money. And they actually act now00:13:13.374
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- in accordance with desire for its development,00:13:16.491
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- they participate on it - we do a lot of things in collaboration00:13:19.734
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- and the rivality of who, what and how has perished.00:13:24.003
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- I have invested in the project relatively...00:13:29.924
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- without our private funds, in case Vítkovice didn't partake on it00:13:34.085
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- and make everything happen, like Triple Hall reconstruction00:13:38.374
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- - up to now a decaying building - because it wasn't possible00:13:42.435
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- to fulfill the official deadline, so we had done a complete00:13:46.195
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- investment preparation and without it the building00:13:49.750
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- wouldn't be... it looks great today.00:13:53.154
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- And on top of that I think there is a possibility...00:13:56.832
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- and when I see how many opinions there were00:14:00.884
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- and which I got by e-mail and what disgusting scenes00:14:03.971
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- have taken place, I don't think I will ever00:14:07.098
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- want to partake in this in future,00:14:10.497
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- because this fully exemplifies the proverb00:14:14.410
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- "All good deeds will be punished."00:14:18.235
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- So I think I let it... somehow.00:14:22.052
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- I don't care for it anymore,00:14:26.392
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- because as Vítkovice we have even left the Triple Hall association.00:14:30.574
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- We had invested time, initiative, money,00:14:38.068
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- and were criticized the most by people who hadn't done00:14:42.298
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- anything for it, who had had some ambitions...00:14:46.441
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- I get it that... I have later understood00:14:50.218
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- that they wanted some money from the city and that they00:14:52.809
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- would keep preparing it for another twenty years,00:14:56.729
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- but I think that today... well, it's a plan...00:14:59.862
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- it had cost us 20 million CZK, but yeah, I think it's...00:15:02.899
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- that for the city culture it was worth it00:15:06.305
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- and I don't worry about it anymore.00:15:09.600
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- He is still unable to understand our position,00:15:13.869
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- because it's different in business, there it works00:15:16.867
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- by what has been agreed, money gets distributed00:15:19.930
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- and it works, and if there is no agreement,00:15:23.827
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- there will be next time. But there is still this00:15:26.881
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- one group that keeps on insisting on the same thing00:15:31.113
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- and isn't willing to come to an agreement,00:15:34.022
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- and I think he is unable to understand, that it is so,00:15:36.681
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- that it's different in culture, it's a different segment00:15:39.836
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- of people, they think differently, they don't care for money,00:15:42.882
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- money is not a value for them so much00:15:46.298
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- as to act or decide differently on their behalf.00:15:49.316
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- They insist, on some fundament, on some vision, idea.00:15:52.459
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- And I think he confronts here this world that is strange,00:15:56.130
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- incomprehensible to him.00:15:59.475
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- What I thought, when we had found out00:16:03.202
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- Triple Hall wants to run the city gallery,00:16:07.270
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- that Světlík would make the selection procedure public00:16:10.414
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- and find someone big-time, someone really capable,00:16:13.787
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- who knows how it is done, and by that he would00:16:16.934
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- steal a march on us and show us he is capable00:16:19.994
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- to build a great institution. Be it paid by city money.00:16:22.867
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- That's OK, he doesn't have to finance it all alone;00:16:25.952
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- nobody would want that of him. That he would make us00:16:29.148
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- look in awe, and say: Look, how well had I done it!00:16:32.527
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- And I don't need an assistance. I know how to do it.00:16:35.859
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- I had done a selection procedure, I had chosen the best man00:16:39.116
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- and he would steal a march on all of us.00:16:42.391
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- And that's how I had thought it would be like.00:16:45.115
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- when I saw there Ivana Štenclová and how patched up it is00:16:47.932
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- I was very surprised because it's an amateurism00:16:50.736
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- I would have never expected. I would expect him to steal00:16:53.778
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- a march on all of us. That he would want that,00:16:57.771
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- desire that, to steal a march on us and show...00:17:00.964
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- because for the whole time he was saying...00:17:04.001
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- that what about us that we don't know00:17:07.266
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- how it is done and that we just want money00:17:10.202
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- and somebody willing to pay it for us.00:17:13.267
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- That's how he had written it in e-mail.00:17:15.987
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- But he alone had made wrong impression of himself,00:17:18.034
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- because he had a great opportunity, supported by city council.00:17:20.898
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- He knew he could push it through any way he liked.00:17:24.017
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- And he botched it completely. Literally, he botched it.00:17:27.191
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- The original project is terrible. Not to mention he doesn't00:17:30.137
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- count with the selection procedure or he employs00:17:33.197
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- there someone inexperienced. Even the budget...00:17:36.265
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- that there are sums which he doesn't necessarily need00:17:39.279
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- because he could have paid a third of his current rent.00:17:42.375
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- It doesn't make it look good. And by that he, unfortunately,00:17:45.283
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- negates his own patronage. Had he been a patron of art,00:17:48.420
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- had he really wanted to be one, he would have taken00:17:51.673
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- from the city budget as little as possible and invested00:17:54.901
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- into activities as much as possible so that the institution00:17:57.869
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- was as best as possible. And he takes the minimum,00:18:00.911
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- the necessity, what he pays for light and heating,00:18:04.244
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- what he needs for the minimal rent he has to pay00:18:07.147
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- to prevent paying under price and being critiqued for it00:18:10.482
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- by European Union and what not. But he doesn't absolutely need it,00:18:13.210
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- so then you have hard time to understand what his stake in it is.00:18:16.921
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- If he wants to be a patron, then this is not how patronage works.00:18:20.560
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- In patronage one strives for maximum quality00:18:24.091
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- and the maximum quality is the best man and00:18:27.295
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- that's neither Ivana Štenclová nor Ladislav Kesner.00:18:30.021
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- But, for example, Pokorný might be it.00:18:33.207
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- He is top man, but, of course, he was selected00:18:36.519
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- by the city council, after all. Though with city not demanding00:18:39.326
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- the selection procedure as was implied by our critique.00:18:43.154
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- It wouldn't take place at all. Milena Bartlová described it00:18:46.040
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- exactly when she said that Kesner hadn't grasped00:18:49.066
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- the point of local discussion and the role public experts play here.00:18:52.261
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- Because to perceive us as a threat is simply wrong.00:18:56.139
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- In his summary there he had painted us as a threat,00:18:59.442
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- that we threaten the gallery.00:19:02.278
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- It has disappointed me a lot that he sees it like that.00:19:05.461
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- It is so primitive to perceive it like that. It is really primitive.00:19:08.710
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- We are not activists, we are public experts.00:19:12.108
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- We articulate expert opinions on some situation that occurred.00:19:15.071
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- Since the beginning of the project it was marked as a threat00:19:18.149
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- whereby he is locking himself out and dividing00:19:21.406
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- it here in two halves. We have never tried to dig trenches,00:19:24.511
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- we have always been communicating with city council.00:19:27.700
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- Up to now, every time I meet under-secretary, she can confirm it,00:19:30.712
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- we talk about the gallery and I tell her always the same:00:19:33.675
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- it's a pity how it ended up, you should change it,00:19:36.967
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- transform it into semi-budgetary organization.00:19:39.458
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- I haven't felt any concerns of external influences00:19:41.659
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- declared in past or coming from certain interests00:19:44.960
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- or goals tied to the project and coming from elsewhere,00:19:48.146
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- not from inside, from what it is supposed to do.00:19:51.345
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- Marek Pokorný - art director of Ostrava City Gallery00:19:54.268
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- (elected by additional selection procedure)00:19:57.010
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- And even before I started to think about it I have made00:19:59.593
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- an inquiry into how it is meant and whether00:20:02.966
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- I really want to do this.00:20:07.153
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- Because probably everybody knows me00:20:12.886
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- and I don't expect anybody expecting me to do something00:20:16.836
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- I don't want to do or I don't think is right.00:20:20.800
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- When I came to it there were some money available,00:20:24.730
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- some contracts, some spaces,00:20:27.941
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- which make for wonderful starting conditions00:20:31.443
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- but the idea of how should it be realized00:20:35.330
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- wasn't detailed enough or let's say00:20:38.927
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- it wasn't prepared very thoroughly.00:20:42.334
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- My mission is to convince all the parts,00:20:45.695
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- be it community of artists, culture community,00:20:49.148
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- political representation or founders of the project,00:20:53.065
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- that there is meaning to it. That it has meaning00:20:56.507
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- in a certain shape I am going for00:20:59.798
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- and that we should talk about the second step;00:21:02.277
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- that is about the type of institutionalization00:21:05.394
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- and sources of long term funding of such project.00:21:08.223
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- The pressure that was felt from the beginning00:21:14.923
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- and that still is obviously coming from the city council00:21:18.268
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- that it must be a world-class institution00:21:21.492
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- with world-class programme when there has been00:21:24.679
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- so much money poured in. No, I think all of that shall come,00:21:27.868
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- and it shall be, of course, the genetical part of the institution.00:21:31.114
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- That's why we collaborate with artists and curators00:21:34.653
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- of the closest international neighborhood,00:21:37.897
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- be it Poland or Germany. So it isn't a key component00:21:40.459
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- for me to invite here the world-class artists00:21:43.733
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- so that people from Prague could come here and tell me00:21:46.932
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- Marek, you are doing it right. I aim at creating standard00:21:50.143
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- framework and some normal behavior that we are used to,00:21:53.520
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- that we call for and that would interconnect us, for example,00:21:56.858
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- with Polish environment with its advanced state of matters.00:22:00.211
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- In Poland, they been working on it for twenty years,00:22:04.042
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- and it seems like it has succeeded in the last five years.00:22:07.485
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- We weren't so successful - and that's important for me.00:22:12.586
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- It would be ideal to enlist one more partner,00:22:43.141
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- be it the district who has enough troubles00:22:47.587
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- with city gallery and investments already00:22:50.971
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- or some private sponsor of the donor type.00:22:54.208
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- This is feasible in Ostrava because you can find there00:22:57.454
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- the classical type of capitalist behavior00:23:00.683
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- including the effort to turn oligarchy into elite.00:23:04.789
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- And this model of behavior is much keener to support00:23:12.640
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- contemporary art "unselfishly"00:23:16.778
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- than interests of some art collectors who00:23:20.804
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- aren't industrialists but they deal with financial matters00:23:25.099
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- or they are developers.00:23:28.625
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- The situation in Ostrava is not good and that's why00:23:32.505
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- one can only welcome funds coming from both00:23:35.835
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- public sector and private initiative.00:23:39.416
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- Jan Keller - sociologist, member of European Parliament.00:23:42.141
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- However, as a sociologist I know that people00:23:45.272
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- who put a lot of effort into gaining big influence00:23:48.535
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- and big money won't lavish them in an unproductive way.00:23:51.970
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- That means one has to expect they will want somehow00:23:55.212
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- to exploit these activities. In better case scenario00:23:58.526
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- they would want a publicity and thus profiting in some00:24:02.642
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- other business of theirs. In worse case scenario00:24:06.011
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- they would want to liken themselves to00:24:09.575
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- what Ancient Greeks called euergetism and euergetists.00:24:12.576
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- An euergetist was a rich citizen00:24:15.523
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- who using his own money provided people with cultural monuments,00:24:18.845
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- it was paid by him. And what he expected for it00:24:23.080
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- was absolute power over city.00:24:26.856
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- The ideal position, truly, worldwide, the best project,00:24:29.220
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- be it America... I know that Europe, like...00:24:32.713
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- what I see here...00:24:36.811
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- it's always a coupling of state funding with the private one,00:24:40.035
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- because really, if there is private capital involved00:24:47.313
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- in the project, it is always a mark of excellence00:24:51.429
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- of the project, because... if there were only such investments00:24:55.289
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- in the city that would require at least partially private funding00:24:59.423
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- then I guarantee to you that there wouldn't be00:25:03.633
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- any bad project realized, not in the whole Czech Republic,00:25:07.766
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- and that the projects would be much much more cheaper.00:25:11.792
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- So, from this point of view I think that the daemon00:25:14.956
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- of bolshevism in us is still... we believe that the state00:25:18.886
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- would be the best to do it. Well, of course, the state00:25:22.262
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- can do it somehow, yeah, but if those two worlds00:25:25.752
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- are to meet in some project, it is always marvelous,00:25:29.299
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- because there are more subjects there00:25:32.713
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- and that you can see it through different eyes00:25:36.864
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- and that has never harmed anybody.00:25:39.990
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- NEW OSTRAVA!!!00:25:43.035
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- "- Gentlemen, how about a bit of entertainment."00:25:45.488
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- ENTERTAINMENT DAY BY DAY!!! "- Well, so be it.00:25:48.576
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- Ostrava is home to Muses of all kind.00:25:50.952
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- - Well, then I want a piece of everything."00:25:53.515
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- "- Wow, my head is already spinning.00:26:14.083
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- - Well, it's no surprise. Ostrava simply knows00:26:17.352
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- how to have fun. Day by day, that is."00:26:20.585
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- EURO-FIVE-YEAR-PLAN00:26:25.035
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- Summer Ostrava Antonio Vivaldi / SUMMER00:26:32.958
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- Let's step aside a bit further now and speculate00:26:47.878
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- what has actually turned our whole case00:26:50.976
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- to such imbroglio and what caused its current state.00:26:54.175
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- The parameter of so called sustainability of project00:26:59.663
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- became a smash hit of recent years00:27:03.238
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- - and not just within culture politics.00:27:06.062
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- This concept tied intrinsically with development subsidies00:27:08.653
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- of European Union structural funds defines conditions00:27:12.157
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- of funding approval, often concerning large sums,00:27:15.593
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- for a purpose of development.00:27:18.736
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- Timing of a few parallel projects00:27:39.082
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- and their sudden overlap has led to almost ideal opportunity00:27:42.257
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- to kill several flies at one blow.00:27:45.879
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- The city's belatedness in using available euro-subsidies00:27:56.562
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- for the reconstruction of the Triple Hall site00:27:59.913
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- was saved by an investment of Vítkovice holding company.00:28:03.253
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- Vítkovice mining region, actually very large00:28:09.001
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- and maybe even the only public space in Czech Republic00:28:13.392
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- owned by a private entity,00:28:17.044
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- was also using big financial sums from the euro-subsidies00:28:20.102
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- for the reconstruction of former steelworks and its transformation00:28:23.788
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- into state of the art science and technology education center00:28:27.357
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- and for the sake of the sustainability of both00:28:30.941
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- recently finished projects they needed a suitable00:28:34.556
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- definition of their function.00:28:37.784
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- Instead of the usual legal status, e.g. semi-budgetary organization,00:28:42.209
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- the project of city gallery ended up, even despite many objections00:28:46.482
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- and protests, as a temporary grant project, also with00:28:50.602
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- a five year subsidy provided by the city.00:28:54.759
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- The exhibition spaces are in the Triple Hall and Gong gas holder00:28:57.849
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- belonging to the Vítkovice Mining Region.00:29:01.813
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- But the problem of sustainability does in no way apply only00:29:05.041
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- to particular projects but also to a wider and much more00:29:09.254
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- complex category of so called sustainability of development00:29:13.294
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- of a whole city.00:29:16.484
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- The current economic situation has slowed down the plans00:29:18.108
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- of Ostrava city to build the culture centers and00:29:21.271
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- that's not just the building of Janáček Philharmonic Orchestra00:29:24.574
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- but also the Ostrava City Gallery.00:29:28.803
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- That's why we use buildings that are available right now.00:29:33.913
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- Their sustainability is important.00:29:38.238
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- This applies not just for Triple Hall but also for Gong00:29:42.423
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- in Vítkovice Mining Region. We have two exhibition spaces,00:29:46.681
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- both are interesting, surely, and thanks to their uniqueness00:29:50.218
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- they are attracting visitors.00:29:54.050
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- In the case of Gong it's a place visited yearly00:29:58.229
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- by cca 400.000 people who don't come primarily to the gallery00:30:02.156
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- but because they come to Vítkovice Mining Region00:30:05.522
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- they also go and see the shows in Ostrava City Gallery,00:30:09.463
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- which is a synergic effect, and that's surely favorable.00:30:13.190
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- We fulfill the requirements. If we didn't we would00:30:16.997
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- have to return the money. As a private entity00:30:20.235
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- we guarantee for all of it. There is a talk of... some funds00:30:23.769
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- but it is essentially very hard work really00:30:27.299
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- and we have to undergo many check-ups00:30:31.154
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- counting hundreds of them ranging from00:30:35.099
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- the Ministry of Finance to the last tax clerk.00:30:38.662
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- So the money really isn't free00:30:42.820
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- and we have to realize many various goals of the project.00:30:46.965
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- From this point of view I consider it a clearly00:30:53.553
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- private project because it is us as a private entity00:30:57.852
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- who is responsible for a problem when it occurs.00:31:01.374
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- It could make up for an entire art movement00:31:04.643
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- that would describe behavior of some00:31:08.215
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- civil servants in these positions. It is really a big show00:31:11.737
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- what's taking place here.00:31:15.752
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- Still, it's a reasonable to believe00:31:19.067
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- it could help finance the sustainability00:31:22.918
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- of the project as demanded by European Union.00:31:27.110
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- And European Union follows certain economic idea,00:31:31.419
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- most of the EU projects deal with problems of this kind,00:31:35.655
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- and I can't say that this type of ability to sustain00:31:41.728
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- a project would be such a matter of fact00:31:46.113
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- in other projects.00:31:50.422
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- Therefore, I wouldn't be too critical about this.00:31:57.381
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- Or, I don't see it too critically, even though I myself00:32:01.612
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- am quite sensitive about it.00:32:04.740
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- He may really thrive these two years but then he will be00:32:07.921
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- threatened by the new subsidy whether he will get it or not,00:32:10.771
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- and what amount would he get, we've been talking about this,00:32:13.433
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- they could give him less, say a half, and then00:32:16.352
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- the institution wouldn't be able to function at00:32:18.503
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- the expected level of quality. Or he might get nothing at all,00:32:21.165
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- because Gong's sustainability will expire - it was planned00:32:24.703
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- for five years, and in two years it will expire.00:32:27.694
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- So maybe he can say he doesn't want it there00:32:30.457
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- anymore or that there will be something else.00:32:33.278
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- So, nobody knows and that doesn't help the institution at all.00:32:35.959
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- One question keeps coming. We are quite obstinate00:32:39.732
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- about it and I myself am quite annoyed about it00:32:42.206
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- because one keeps repeating it like a parrot.00:32:45.273
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- But the question remains unanswered:00:32:47.784
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- Why couldn't be the semi-budgetary organization00:32:49.761
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- founded if there was no reason not to?00:32:51.927
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- No reason at all. It would be transparent,00:32:54.403
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- it would be just like anywhere else,00:32:56.524
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- there would be selection procedure guaranteed,00:32:58.415
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- clear organization structure, director would have00:33:01.183
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- signing rights, simply everything would work00:33:03.392
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- and it could have easily operated in a rented place,00:33:05.695
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- even in the Gong, why not. If they need sustainability00:33:08.085
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- of the European project then be it, let it be there,00:33:11.423
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- temporarily, until we find something more suitable.00:33:13.853
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- And still nobody has answered this; why it can't be so.00:33:16.619
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- In the beginning there was some initial political decision;00:33:19.475
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- under certain circumstances.00:33:23.751
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- One can leave it completely or turn it into something else00:33:27.953
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- but since this political decision did take place00:33:32.018
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- then the pressure will stay... if we manage to be effective00:33:36.146
- 00:33:36.146
- for the coming three years in building wider audience,00:33:40.339
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- wider background, if the elements, that is,00:33:44.528
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- concerned people in the city will get connected and it will00:33:48.519
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- attract some extra-regional attention which is, I believe,00:33:52.652
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- to a certain extent already happening,00:33:56.681
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- then it's a new situation that needs to be handled00:34:00.788
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- differently by the donor, that's the city.00:34:04.962
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- And that is the opportunity to the institutional development,00:34:08.478
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- which is, I think, maybe more reasonable and better,00:34:11.095
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- even though it's not all that likable, because we would00:34:13.590
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- prefer politicians to be enlightened enough to say00:34:16.181
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- it should be like this, placed a call for a well-written proposal,00:34:18.431
- 00:34:18.431
- talked about it on the international level,00:34:21.408
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- offered some five options of how to do it,00:34:23.579
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- chose one, the first year got it tested,00:34:26.172
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- the second year launched it, the third year it got00:34:28.993
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- international attention and it would go on like this.00:34:31.735
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- But, unfortunately, this is not how it works here.00:34:35.032
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- But there is still a great chance that in a few years00:34:38.296
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- there will be a regular institution created in Ostrava00:34:42.210
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- with parameters of institute of contemporary art00:34:46.161
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- or some kunsthalle or some platform for contemporary art00:34:50.461
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- with its own identity and institutional framework00:34:54.713
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- and it will have its very own behavior;00:34:58.713
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- different to other institutions.00:35:02.524
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- More likely it's a question for the city, what will happen00:35:05.260
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- in two years time? Because, I think the project...00:35:08.590
- 00:35:08.590
- I still believe in the project, and I believe also there was00:35:11.995
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- a good management chosen, yeah and that it works properly...00:35:15.315
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- that's something else. Well, we'll see.00:35:19.288
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- We... are busy enough with our own work.00:35:23.715
- 00:35:23.715
- If anything I regretted the rotten building00:35:27.890
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- that 300 million CZK allocated for it would be forfeited00:35:32.098
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- and then it wasn't possible to make it on time,00:35:36.355
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- so it was really about wanting to have something, here in Ostrava,00:35:39.553
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- another ruin got repaired.00:35:43.078
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- It is certainly worthwhile to preserve the industrial heritage00:35:44.927
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- that's there but nobody shall think it would attract00:35:48.298
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- the same amount of tourists as a seaside spa.00:35:51.649
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- It would need to stay funded all the time00:35:54.915
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- and there might be available more money than it would earn00:35:58.041
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- and in past Ostrava was significant as one of the biggest00:36:01.830
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- economic resources of the whole republic.00:36:05.002
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- Now it would change into a hole with others throwing money00:36:08.457
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- in it so that all there wouldn't deteriorate and I don't know00:36:11.018
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- how long would they be fine with that.00:36:13.375
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- METROPOLIS FULL OF LIFE!!! "- Ostrava is today00:36:16.046
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- an objectively beautiful city. - I see Ostrava literally00:36:18.511
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- as a metropolis full of life.00:36:21.032
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- NEW OSTRAVA!!!00:36:33.002
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- - One more thing. Fortune favors the prepared.00:36:35.485
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- CONVENIENT INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITIES!!!00:36:38.665
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- Every investor now expects a supportive background.00:36:41.153
- 00:36:41.153
- And Ostrava, in this matter as well, doesn't leave it00:36:43.380
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- to the chance and is prepared. - For example how she wants00:36:45.466
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- to make the best of Vítkovice industrial area00:36:48.801
- 00:36:48.801
- - that's fantastic! She turned, say, the historical burden,00:36:51.187
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- simply into a profit turning it into a unique dominant.00:36:54.108
- 00:36:54.108
- - Not just Vítkovice is changing. Also Karolina, Černá louka,00:36:58.028
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- Mošnov, simply pragmatic vision and modern realization.00:37:01.158
- 00:37:01.158
- - Ostrava obviously doesn't fear new ideas and solutions00:37:06.011
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- and I am sure it will keep surprising us."00:37:09.658
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- DROWNED UTOPIA00:37:15.761
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- Spring Ostrava Antonio Vivaldi / SPRING00:37:22.439
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- Let's look at the whole thing from even wider perspective00:37:32.015
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- that will place our take on the issue a bit more00:37:35.487
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- in an inseparable context of societal development.00:37:38.705
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- In 2014 Ostrava city has put forward a bid to become00:37:44.478
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- European Cultural Capital in 2015,00:37:47.860
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- awarded in the end to Plzeň city.00:37:50.721
- 00:37:50.721
- The application for the competition counting 400 pages includes00:37:55.439
- 00:37:55.439
- great many projects, visions, rebuildings00:37:59.204
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- and entirely new buildings for cultural self-realization.00:38:02.929
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- The prologue of the application reads, among other things, this:00:38:09.068
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- "One of the principles of our project is realistic idealism.00:38:12.998
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- What does it mean? It means to lay out ideal,00:38:16.902
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- maximalist goals and at the same time00:38:20.970
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- a pragmatist way to reach them.00:38:24.344
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- We decided to place side by side an idea and a goal.00:38:27.346
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- Adopt a plan for a viable utopia.00:38:31.560
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- To imagine city as a space for happy life in such a way00:38:34.808
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- that could be made real.00:38:39.154
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- We adopted principle of Olympic Village.00:38:43.052
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- No single part of the project is one-off and ephemeral.00:38:46.956
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- All stays there for the city as new cultural events,00:38:50.610
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- transformation tools, self-reflective criteria00:38:54.381
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- for future development. We opt for a longterm00:38:57.799
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- cultural influence on development and sustainability of the city."00:39:00.982
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- Using the nomination for European Culture Capital00:39:05.773
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- Ostrava attempted also a complete make-over00:39:08.906
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- of her identity, though strictly limited to culture politics.00:39:12.969
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- At the moment of the failure of this attempt00:39:17.326
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- there kept on hanging a few projects being created00:39:20.678
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- in the long term all of which converge as interconnected00:39:23.957
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- parts of our case.00:39:27.412
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- It bears a witness to obvious connection of seemingly00:39:29.868
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- heterogenous things we need very much to be aware of.00:39:33.375
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- The utopia of the project of Ostrava city00:39:38.435
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- as European Cultural Capital looking almost like00:39:41.663
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- a cultural miracle turned out to be more likely00:39:44.899
- 00:39:44.899
- a short-sighted bewitchtment by the possibilities of huge00:39:47.933
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- subsidies for a wide spectrum of culture activities.00:39:51.149
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- Their true meaningfulness lies namely in a more complex00:39:54.875
- 00:39:54.875
- handling of such possibilities, above all in creating00:39:58.643
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- environment favorable to long term presence of creators00:40:01.992
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- and recipients of this high culture00:40:05.920
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- and in education of local population.00:40:09.024
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- Ostrava put forward a bid for European Culture Capital in 2015.00:40:13.166
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- Unfortunately her project wasn't accepted but00:40:17.375
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- part of project was a culture cluster Černá louka.00:40:21.595
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- One of the buildings planned to be constructed00:40:25.118
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- as a part of the culture cluster was meant00:40:28.582
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- for the city gallery, as well as a space for00:40:31.127
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- Janáček Philharmonic Orchestra, etc., etc.00:40:33.305
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- Today, however, the economic situation doesn't allow us00:40:35.253
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- to go on realizing and developing00:40:38.535
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- Černá louka culture cluster.00:40:41.097
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- Of course we do our preparations for a time00:40:44.130
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- when the economic situation will be better00:40:47.560
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- and when Ostrava will be able to realize its original intention.00:40:50.645
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- The European Culture Capital competition is certainly00:40:56.949
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- meaningful because it's addressed to those cities00:40:59.923
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- that can't develop anymore the same way00:41:03.014
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- and they need an impulse to find a new way of development.00:41:06.319
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- I was a member of "Ostrava as European Culture Capital"00:41:10.082
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- preparation committee but only very shortly00:41:13.663
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- because even though people working there were very nice00:41:15.505
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- I didn't like the project as a whole.00:41:19.447
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- Because they were actually suggesting to build00:41:22.513
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- a big sculpture or a super-modern music00:41:25.962
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- auditorium in Ostrava,00:41:29.490
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- that is in a city that has00:41:32.929
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- - though not by its own fault - poor everyday culture.00:41:36.909
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- There simply two definitions of culture.00:41:41.069
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- First, culture meaning art. Second, culture meaning life style.00:41:44.127
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- And here they wanted to install high art in a city where00:41:48.407
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- for a few months a year one cannot open window00:41:52.647
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- without ending up choking;00:41:55.845
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- in a city with a relapsed network of small businesses00:41:58.928
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- because there have been built several huge monsters of a mall;00:42:03.009
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- in a city where you have a great area built00:42:07.367
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- next to a railway station when it comes to malls,00:42:11.615
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- but if you go from there in any direction00:42:15.653
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- you see only wasteland.00:42:18.901
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- And in this they wanted to place some big sculpture,00:42:21.989
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- gallery, exhibition hall, and similar stuff.00:42:25.896
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- So I parted ways with the committee00:42:29.723
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- on the idea of culture and what Ostrava really needs.00:42:33.995
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- It's complicated to do it right. Because, for example,00:42:42.183
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- in 2005 the European Culture Capitol was awarded to Lille00:42:45.747
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- - the city was immensely helped by it;00:42:50.001
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- it had had high unemployment rate,00:42:52.966
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- there had been mines closed for men00:42:55.618
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- and textile factories for women, that is,00:42:58.231
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- a situation similar to Ostrava. But Lille managed to cultivate itself,00:43:00.669
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- because it's not that hard - you can get from Lille to Paris00:43:04.917
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- or to Brussels or to London or to Cologne in an hour.00:43:08.733
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- While Czech Republic is, unfortunately,00:43:12.125
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- a European periphery and Ostrava region, where I live,00:43:14.086
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- is, unfortunately, a periphery of this periphery.00:43:16.445
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- And trying to cultivate it the same way as Lille is nonsense.00:43:19.689
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- That means... I believe we should have gone00:43:23.539
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- the way of supporting higher education in Ostrava,00:43:26.722
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- supporting quality of life of students,00:43:30.042
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- because young and university educated people00:43:33.145
- 00:43:33.145
- are leaving Ostrava. What would be the use00:43:36.369
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- of supporting high culture when people who are00:43:40.382
- 00:43:40.382
- the first rate recipients of it leave Ostrava sooner00:43:43.702
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- than the big sculpture and auditorium get completed.00:43:47.153
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- Ostrava went through a very complicated times.00:43:52.058
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- When you take... in 1994 smelting works got closed,00:43:55.619
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- in 1998 blast furnaces were closed in Vítkovice,00:43:59.767
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- then by European Union decree many technological processes00:44:03.987
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- were stopped, so the nineties were very difficult,00:44:07.946
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- so if we take how they handled it elsewhere in the world,00:44:11.676
- 00:44:11.676
- for example Bilbao is quite known, or Pittsburgh,00:44:15.300
- 00:44:15.300
- the population halved.00:44:19.676
- 00:44:19.676
- When we visited these cities, when I was in Bilbao00:44:22.811
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- and talking directly with the planner00:44:26.841
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- of the Bilbao miracle I was shocked first00:44:29.910
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- by the fact it had taken them twenty years00:44:33.166
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- and, second, it had costed ten billion EUR.00:44:36.445
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- So when we look at Ostrava, it had costed absolutely nothing.00:44:39.782
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- Because it hadn't costed even as much as00:44:44.106
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- the Guggenheim Museum itself.00:44:48.470
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- When I asked the planner whether he doesn't think00:44:52.229
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- those 300 or 400 million EUR is too much.00:44:56.004
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- He said the sum represents00:44:58.895
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- 00:44:58.895
- and it's a good brand. So from this point of view,00:45:01.986
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- if you let it go to hell completely00:45:06.064
- 00:45:06.064
- the reconstruction is very complicated.00:45:14.548
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- When it comes to sustaining Ostrava's viability or00:45:17.783
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- some kind of renewal the high culture can't be a priority.00:45:21.723
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- There have to be two priorities. Ostrava will always be00:45:27.726
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- industrial city and the goal is to make the industry ecologically00:45:31.370
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- acceptable and, how they say fashionably nowadays, intelligent.00:45:35.685
- 00:45:35.685
- It means to thin it down raw-material-wise and00:45:39.245
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- energy-wise and leave only modern industry.00:45:41.539
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- Second, in order to get this done,00:45:44.320
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- one has to put in a lot of knowledge,00:45:46.798
- 00:45:46.798
- that means that in Ostrava there has to be supported00:45:49.204
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- first of all technical education and I have to lobby of course00:45:52.288
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- also for the university because I am educated in humanities.00:45:55.399
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- All in all I don't think Ostrava ended up entirely poorly00:45:57.656
- 00:45:57.656
- because following the findings of the European Culture Capital00:45:59.687
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- competition Ostrava ended up being the second most cultural city00:46:02.054
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- of Europe right after Plzeň.00:46:04.685
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- Are we prisoners of system not just incapable but00:46:15.985
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- also unwilling to look and think beyond deadlines00:46:19.518
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- of so called sustainability?00:46:22.617
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- What's the purpose of squandering huge sums00:46:25.908
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- of money with so ridiculously short00:46:29.064
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- sustainability requirement of five years?00:46:32.207
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- In a longer perspective, isn't this system creating00:46:35.499
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- more like a theatre scenery without audience and actors?00:46:39.155
Strašně se to seká :-(( Škoda, že to nebylo někde ke stažení…
dobry den, bohuzel mame docasny problem s novym prehravacem, pracujeme na tom jak se da! omlouvame se za problemy s prehravanim, rovnez nas to mrzi*
funkce stahovani videi by mela byt take brzy obnovena, ale prehravac by mel byt kazdopadne schopen reagovat na rychlost pripojeni u divaka a podle toho prizpusobit kvalitu videa, aby se nesekalo